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good afternoon and welcome to today's

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sts-134 post mission management team

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briefing we have leroy kane the chairman

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of that mission management team with us

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today we'll start off with his opening

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statements and then go on to questions

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from the reporters here in the newsroom

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and from reporters on the phone bridge

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leroy

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okay good afternoon thanks kelly

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the um i think you all know that the

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space walk went really well and the crew

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is the shuttle crew is of course

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in their sleep period now

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the

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mmt

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i don't have a lot to tell you about

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from the mmt simply because we didn't

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have a lot to talk about so i'll just

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highlight what uh what we spent most of

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our time on which was a status from the

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damage assessment team or or as we call

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it the dat team

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the team came in i think uh you'll

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recall that we had one site one damage

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site that we we were continuing to

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assess

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and so they came in and gave us a status

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of that

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work and it was a very thorough

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discussion in terms of

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the uh the analysis that they have done

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and and what they think they have yet to

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do before they would be able to clear

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the site

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and ultimately we determined that we're

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going to go do a focus inspection to get

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some more data on this particular site

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and i have a couple of graphics to show

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you just to remind you of what we're

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talking about the first graphic

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if we can put the first graphic up

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this is again the overview of the bottom

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of the orbiter and and uh seven sites

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that we were looking at initially the

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only one that remains a yellow box is

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the one that's labeled 2-0-1 that's the

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one that's just behind the starboard

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main landing gear door and ahead of the

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the next chart

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shows you

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tries to depict

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structurally what is what is underneath

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that site in in that general vicinity

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and so to orient you

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you can see the arrows on the bottom

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left corner of the picture shows you

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that uh forward

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and inboard directions

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so the

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toward the back of the picture you see

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an arrow pointed toward what's called

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the mid body side wall that would be the

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side of the

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of the orbiter where the wing box

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connects to the side of the orbiter

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the um

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the spars going across the the picture

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sts-118 damage uh tile uh site is

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not in the actual location it's depicted

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there simply to show you where it is

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relative to the sts-134 damage location

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in in terms of

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so if we were going to put the 118

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location on here in in the correct

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location on this picture it would be

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part of the picture so it would be the

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mirror image

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along the uh along the spar on the very

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left hand side of the picture

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so as far as inboard outboard is

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concerned it's in the correct location

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however instead of being

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of the damage location on 134 it's that

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far aft

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of the damaged location on 134 if that

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makes any sense

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so this is just to give you a relative

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idea we talked about the structure

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underneath those tiles

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and the fact that we're close to the

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wing box area and you can kind of get an

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idea here how close that is

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just to give you some dimensional

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perspective here the distance forward to

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between the 118 damage site location in

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each one you know each one of those

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you know half a foot apart roughly

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whether that's actual in terms of the

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engineering drawings but this is just to

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give you an idea of structurally what's

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in this in this general location so

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gives you an idea of what we do when we

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do the focused inspection

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i think most of you are aware of this of

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this operation in general but

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essentially we pick up the obss

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in this case we're going to pick it up

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with the station arm and we're going to

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attach it to the the shuttle's robotic

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and then we'll lower it to the underside

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over the wing and to the underside of

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the of the vehicle

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and then it maintains about a seven foot

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underside of the vehicle and it'll be

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located over the damaged site and then

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digital camera as well as taking data

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so that gives you an idea of that

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okay so that's what i want to show you

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in terms of graphics and charts

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the the plan is that the focus

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inspection will start about the end of

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the cruise morning tomorrow so they'll

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get up tonight around 10 pm local time

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and by about 1 30 or so they'll be into

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the focus inspection procedures

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the pilot will be doing the uh the

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and two of the flight engineers

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will be doing the the station robotic

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and and we will be doing as i said we'll

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be getting some digital camera shots and

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we'll be getting some shot some data

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it's about a two hour task in total it

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it probably is actually not quite two

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hours but we blocked it for two hours

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to go ahead and get the data that we

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toward the orbiter but it'll be able to

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clearance as we're as we're putting the

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boom in the arm over the the edge of the

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the payload door and the wing area and

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information as we're doing the uh the

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maneuvers of the arm

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also the the actual maneuvers are what

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as it as the team has it laid out so

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that's in a nutshell that's the plan

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the um the team felt like we needed to

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get a little bit more data to be able to

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um get the analysis to the fidelity that

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and and in that sense we'll be able to

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get a good sense for what we expect

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and see how much margin we have in this

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imagery and get the lcs data

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so everything else continues to go well

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is gearing up for the next spacewalk and

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the cruise timeline for tomorrow

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the monday is the after eva 2 on sunday

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soyuz undock which we talked about

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gave a go for a doc

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this morning and so that's all

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that that plan has been uh

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been fully reviewed and is ready to go

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uh all in all things are going very well

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and that's pretty much a summary of the

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update i have for you today so i'm happy

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thanks leroy and just for the folks here

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in the room we do have a set of these

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charts printed out on the counter and

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they'll be on the nasa website in the

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shuttle section of the nasa portal under

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news and media resources for those who

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are on the line and we'll start here

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with seth

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thank you seth bourne sign ap

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leroy first have you started contingency

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if you find

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something you don't like with the

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focused inspection for an eva have you

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identified who it would be and when it

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no we have not okay

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greg johnson's going to do the shuttle

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arm but it's really not much of his

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operation he it's almost all programmed

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well he'll do the program he'll he'll do

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the operations in terms of the

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procedures that are associated with the

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shuttle rms system he'll be responsible

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for all of those and the final one is

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how many photos overall

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for three images with the digital camera

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and we're looking for two data takes

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with the lcs the laser system thank you

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phillips loss with nasaspaceflight.com

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i guess first the first the simple

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are is everything else that you reviewed

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cleared for entry in terms of a uh

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ascent debris standpoint

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it is we've cleared everything else we

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cleared the other sites i showed you

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today again and then uh yesterday

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and even before we came here first time

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to talk about tile

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damage we had cleared the rcc the wing

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leading edge so we just have this one

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site remaining okay thanks and then um

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what what's the plan the execution plan

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in terms of reducing the data from the

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focus inspection for the team going

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forward after tomorrow morning

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okay so so tomorrow morning by the time

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by our

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uh the the imagery and the laser experts

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first and then they'll hand that off to

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the folks that need to do the structural

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and the thermal and the aerothermal

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analyses

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it's important

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for the photo lab folks to be able to

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get the data so that we can get a more

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accurate dimensional assessment of this

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cavity and that's really key

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to the overall

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structural and thermal assessment

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and so it'll kind of go in that sequence

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and there'll be some

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some

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iteration between

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the the various analyses as they go on

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and i expect that in less than 24 hours

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we'll have their final answer

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and just depending on

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on um

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you know how how good the the data is

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and i expect it to be very good frankly

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given our experience with this

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it it's a good chance that it'd probably

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be less than 24 hours when we'll be

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ready to talk about what we think in

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terms of this site

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thanks mark

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i have a couple questions which i think

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i can kind of roll together

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i think the approach is going to give

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you a three-dimensional view that will

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tell you what's exposed and the depth of

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the

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tile damage if i'm understanding this

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yes

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it

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equivalent of a three-dimensional

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body that represents the part of the

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cavity that's that's vacated

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into the into the extent you're willing

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has your sense

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since yesterday changed and i guess i

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would characterize that as

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this is something you need to examine

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but

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you're not seeing this as a as a hazard

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or a threat at this point

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you're correct mark that that hasn't

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changed again

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we don't view this as

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as

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there's nothing alarming here and and

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we're really not concerned

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we're doing

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what we understand and know that we need

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to go do in these scenarios

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this is one that

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we feel pretty confident that we're

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going to be able to clear it once we get

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some higher fidelity data

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and since we don't positively know that

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for sure

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we take it in this order we go get the

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better data

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do the higher fidelity more accurate

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less conservative analysis

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get the answer

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and from that answer determine if

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there's anything beyond that we need to

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do

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and so but our sense is

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just as you said that this is not one

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that ultimately we're going to be

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concerned about in all likelihood not

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have to do anything about after we get

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some better dimensional analysis um

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and uh

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and therefore thermal and structural

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analysis as a result of that that we

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okay

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no further questions right now here at

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the

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um thank you thank you very much james

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from florida today

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um

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leroy could you explain a little bit

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further what you get out of a focus

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inspection that you don't get um during

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flight day two just given that it's the

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same you know

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okay yeah james you you'll recall on the

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flight day two inspections that's really

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we're inspecting the leading edge in the

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nose cap and the crew cabin areas

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we don't really get this kind of data on

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the tile

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areas

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when we do the flight day two inspection

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we get the best data on the tile areas

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when we do the rendezvous pitch maneuver

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which is where these photographs came

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from that we've been working off of up

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i say thank you

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and

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wondering what

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what more you would have to say

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to um

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for it to

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become a greater concern obviously i

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understand you don't expect that but um

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what it would be essentially and i know

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you're trying to get a 3d model but

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would it be um

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is there like a depth that you could say

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that it would have to

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penetrate to for it to

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become

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more of a concern than it is now

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well james just in general terms for

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example if if we had a scenario where

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the uh the damage went all the way to

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the sip

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went all the way to the essentially the

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interface

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uh just between the tile

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bond and and the core pond structure

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that would be something that would would

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need to be looked at in greater detail

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if it was a a clean

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clean break all the way to the edge of a

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tile for example when you went all the

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way down the sidewall the other other

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tile down to to the sip or to the what

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what's called the filler bar you know

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that's yet a different scenario if you

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had a combination of those two things

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that's probably even yet a worse case

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than those other two previous ones

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and all of those

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it it's really not about what we

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see

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in the in the photography or in the

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laser data per se it's about when we

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take that data and then go plug that

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into the thermal and the structural

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analyses

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so it won't be necessarily just as

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simple as looking at a picture a higher

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fidelity more close-up

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more clear picture if you will and

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saying yes it's good no it's bad

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it'll be a matter of taking that

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information and then translating that

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into

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the data that's necessary to run the

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models that do the thermal predictions

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and the structural predictions that then

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we can from that we can back out the

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margin that we have for the structure

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that lies underneath this area

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yes absolutely and and um

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and so uh other

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well those few crew members you

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mentioned are um

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sorry about that are

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at work on uh

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the inspection basically everything else

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will be going on as as normally

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timelines um

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morning yes that's correct thanks a lot

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okay our next uh phone bridge reporter

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thank you very much it's uh tarik malek

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from uh space.com and uh i guess just to

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to be clear on how the events will

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unfold tomorrow with the inspection um i

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know the crew had some time off that was

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scheduled it sounds like they'll still

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get that i just wanted to make sure

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that um that that would be the case and

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i'm wondering if there's any tasks

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that maybe you hoped to achieve uh in

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terms of get ahead uh with the transfer

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or anything that um that you're gonna

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have to put off uh in order to perform

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the um the two hours of extra inspection

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thanks

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yeah targ we talked a little bit about

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that yesterday and

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essentially we have

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a plan that we've had place as a

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placeholder on flight day six

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and in fact this focused inspection is

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taking less time than the placeholder

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that we had in place

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and so we're not losing any activities

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by doing this we're not losing any off

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time we're not losing any transfer time

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and

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so it's actually a more benign situation

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than what we had already in the timeline

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thank you

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okay uh sounds like that's all from

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taric so last but not least bill harwood

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yeah thanks leroy uh could you take a

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moment and just tell us how you did

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clear the yellow von i guess

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part of this you've already answered but

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i'm trying to make sure i understand how

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you can how some things can get cleared

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without an inspection whereas something

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like this one requires it thanks

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okay sure bill the

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the elevon site was a damaged site that

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dimensionally was was more benign than

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this one and even though that's in an

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area that

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that has the ability to see

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and normally we'll see

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a regime of higher heating than this

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particular area where we have this site

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of interest now

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the the damage area itself in terms of

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the overall dimensions and the depth

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was was much uh was different in the

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sense that when you look at the overall

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thickness of that tile which is quite a

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bit thicker

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back there on the elevon

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the the analyses came back and said we

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had

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much more margin than we need to in that

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area so it's essentially

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taking each one

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unto themselves and in terms of they're

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all unique

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the tile thicknesses are all different

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because they have different functions

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based on where they are

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and so in the case of the elevon

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the damage is compared to the overall

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function and requirement for the tile to

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to protect the underlying surface was

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such that we we ended up with

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quite a bit more margin than we needed

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to so we didn't have to do anything else

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anything else bill

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well not hearing anything uh we'll come

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back here to houston

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any follow-up questions here in the

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briefing room

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okay

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well that will wrap up the briefing

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thank you very much for coming a

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reminder that those graphics are

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available on the nasa website at

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www.nasa.gov in the shuttle section

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coming up a couple of programming notes

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the space station crew scheduled to

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begin at sleep shift at 4 31 pm central

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5 31 eastern and then we'll have our

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international space station flight

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director update from the mission control